7 Feb 2026

Behind Black Sheep

From Saturday Morning, 9:30 am on 7 February 2026
The words "Black Sheep" are displayed in a vintage font above a black sheep with a creepy red eye. In the top left corner is the RNZ logo.

Photo: Supplied

Relaxed smiling William Ray with a grey background

Photo: RNZ / Jeff McEwan

New Zealand's most awarded podcast is RNZ's own Black Sheep, and it's back with its 9th season. 

Hosted and produced by William Ray - he explores New Zealand history through the lens of real life, shady, controversial and sometimes downright villainous characters. 

Our own Susie Ferguson has even been typecast as a murderous Scottish villain in it. 

Susie and William discuss how the seasons come to be, and wonder why William is so obsessed with the sketchy side of life.

Black and white archival images of a woman (Elspeth Kerr). One image on the left of the woman looking at the camera, with a second image on the right of the woman side on.

Photo: Archival New Zealand

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